Thursday, 1 January 2015

Re: refund request [169443-1393250803]

Dear Mr. Andrea,
Thank you for contacting us on the 24th of February 2014 regarding compensation for our services. Please accept my apologies for the delay in our response and for any added frustration this may have caused.
I would like to remind you that as you travelled on Christmas Eve you are unfortunately not eligible for a full refund. I must stress if you wish to continue a Delay-repay claim you must send in the original tickets, not photocopies. Also to mention we will not accept claims for Taxi fares for the 26th either as we had clear warnings in place that GEX would not be running for that date.
I hope this has clarified our position and we look forward to receiving the original tickets so we can fully compensate you within our company's refund policy.



If you wish to contact us further regarding your query, please contact our Customer Service team directly at comments@southernrailway.com, by phone on 08451 27 29 20 or in writing to: 
Southern Customer Services 
PO Box 3021 
Bristol 
BS2 2BS 
quoting ticket number [169443-1393250803] on all communication.

For the latest travel information, why not follow us on Twitter @southernrailUK and @GatwickExpress 

Kind regards 


Henry Towler
Southern Customer Services

Re: refund request [169443-1393250803]

Dear Support,
I am writing in response to case references: 20140121-826592, 159470-1389887111 and 159473-1389887291.
I would like to say I really appreciate your apologies although these won?t help to restore the wasted time I could have spent with my family. I also appreciate your celerity in providing your prompt responses.
I read carefully your replies many times and I regret for the difficult situation you have faced but I have noticed that other than listing factors that afflicted your services and as mentioned in one of your previous email ?For safety reasons, Network Rail advised that we could not run services because of the risk of falling trees and other debris, therefore Southern and Gatwick Express services were suspended, until Network Rail could inspect the line, clear the debris and declare the route safe for passenger traffic? you cannot reimburse the ticket, I haven?t received real answers to the questions below as the UK storm was by far broadcasted days earlier by forecast as a known event:
If you have experienced and you are still experiencing all the disruptions you have listed I still wonder why an train was dispatched and how come it was punctual in those conditions? Why an electric train? Are these facts part of your safety plan?
And most of all somehow your SouthernRail UK Twitter account twitted on 24th December at 4:25 am:
?Victoria to Gatwick service is now starting up again, but will be slightly irregular until we can get back tot he pattern we had #UKStorm?. (you can see the screenshot attached).
We are on the same boat but so far you haven?t gone a long way to accommodate my request. I am really disappointed as I would have expected more customer support by a company that is supposed to deal with punctuality and customer satisfaction especially close to festivity and for which me, customer, I have well far payed this dis-service. I believe and still hold my position that the day I was on travel to Gatwick the situation was dealt with unsufficient customer care, imprecision, incorrect information and misadvice.
As for now you can find all the correspondence being published and updated for the time being at this website:
http://mycomplainstosouthernrail.blogspot.co.uk
In the hope you can reimburse the money spent for the train ticket and the cab I payed on the 26th December to get to the airport as flight booking was moved at 7 am and no other service was available I will wait your answer before to decide to update the blog.
Kind Regards,
Andrea


Sunday, 23 February 2014

Further information on refund in case these cases

The refund process If you are looking for further information if you are eligible and how to get a refund a refund the following website may answer your questions:

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/insurance/2013/12/uk-storm-rights


My trains have been affected. What do I do? 
In the wake of Friday's storm, services in Kent and East Anglia have been among the worst affected. Southeastern has cancelled all its services until midday.
There was also disruption to services across the country on Christmas Eve.
If your train is cancelled, here are your options.
  • Can I get another train? If your ticket is open, you can just get on the next train to your destination, whatever the weather. If your ticket is restricted, you can't get on the next train if yours is delayed; but if it's cancelled, you should be able to. 
  • Can I get my money back if I don't travel? Yes, you are entitled to a full refund if the weather means your train can't run so you can't use your ticket. This applies whether your ticket is for a specific train or if it is an open-ended ticket.
  • How do I claim? You can pick up a form from the appropriate company's stations, or visit its website. Make sure you keep hold of your tickets, as you will need these when applying for a refund. You need to apply within 28 days.
If your train has been delayed, or a cancellation meant you had to take a later train, here are your options.
Technically, you are not entitled to money back where a delay is caused by bad weather. But some firms may still pay out, so it's worth giving these tips a try.
  • What if I now don't want to travel? You are entitled to a full refund if poor weather means services are disrupted.
  • What if I'm late arriving? If you travel and the delay is over half an hour, you may be entitled to a refund, but the amount varies. If you are booked on a specific train, you have more rights than if your ticket is open-ended.
  • How much can I get? The minimum is 20% of your fare for more than an hour's delay. However, you can receive more, depending on the train operator. You may even get cash for delays between 30 minutes and an hour from some firms.
  • How do I claim? Collect a form from the company’s stations or visit its website. Make sure you keep hold of your tickets, as you will need these when applying for a refund. You have 28 days to apply. Refunds are usually in vouchers, unless you didn't use the ticket, in which case you will be refunded via the payment method you used to book.
If train problems cause you to miss a flight, you may be able to get compensation from your travel insurance provider, though check first as different firms will have different rules. You will need to show you allowed a reasonable amount of time for your journey to meet the flight. If you're heading to Gatwick, remember that engineering works mean there is no Gatwick Express train service – there are more details on the Southern website.
My flight's been delayed. What are my rights?
Gatwick Airport says it has "additional teams of engineers, electrical staff and volunteers at the airport to minimise the risk of disruption from potential further flooding".
If your flight itself is delayed, you aren't eligible for compensation if it's not the airline's fault. But if you're held up for more than two hours, whatever the reason, you may be entitled to food, drinks, calls and accommodation. If you paid for these, keep your receipts, then claim. See Flight Delay Rights for full information.
My flight's been cancelled. What are my rights?
When a flight is cancelled, however long before it was due to take off, you have a right to either a refund or an alternative flight to your destination. See Flight Cancellation Rights for more details.

Refund Request - Case Reference : 20140121-826592



The refund process:

"Dear Andrea

I am currently processing your refund. In order to proceed with this, I need the original tickets. Please could you send this information to the customer services address detailed below.

Customers can claim compensation for delayed journeys with us through our Delay Repay scheme (against the cost of rail tickets) if their journey is delayed by 30 minutes or more. However we are unable to cover consequential losses as per the National Rail Conditions of Carriage. Passengers delayed on journeys to airports, or who miss their plane, may be able to claim from their travel insurers, if the delay is due to a failure of public transport and if the claimant has allowed sufficient time for the journey.

If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us directly at:comments@southernrailway.com or www.southernrailway.com/your-journey/contact-us/contact-us-form/ you can also contact our Customer Service team by phone on (08451 27 29 20), fax (08451 27 29 30) or in writing (Southern & Gatwick Express Customer Services, PO Box 10240, ASHBY-DE-LA-ZOUCH, LE65 9EB).

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If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us directly at:comments@southernrailway.com or www.southernrailway.com/your-journey/contact-us/contact-us-form/ you can also contact our Customer Service team by phone on (08451 27 29 20), fax (08451 27 29 30) or in writing (Southern & Gatwick Express Customer Services, PO Box 10240, ASHBY-DE-LA-ZOUCH, LE65 9EB).

Kind regards


Southern Customer Services"

Re: Southern Customer Comments [159470-1389887111]

Another reply still on 31st January apologising for the experience but still doesn't explain why an electric train was dispatched during alluvions and given as punctual:

"Dear Andrea

Thank you for contacting us on 16 January 2014 regarding your complaint and refund request.

Please accept our apologies for the delay in response. I am sorry we were not able to contact you sooner.


I would like to begin by apologising for the experience you had with us during Christmas. I can certainly appreciate your frustration with the matter and how we had handled these disruptions. On Christmas Eve, we had experienced a lot of disruptions which included flooding, trees on the line, landslips and two fires at different locations. All of these factors added together, made it extremely difficult for us to run the services in which we had planned, bearing in mind that our services were already reduced due to planned engineering works. The landslips had caused major disruptions and some were so severe, and have continued to fall, and some are still affecting our line today.

Unfortunately, as the tickets you booked were used we are unable to refund them. However, you can claim compensation through our Delay Repay scheme. I can confirm that for any journey delayed by 30 minutes or more, you can claim compensation through our Delay Repay scheme.
You can either apply online, or print a postal application, by following the link below:
http://www.southernrailway.com/your-journey/customer-services/delay-repay/

Alternatively you can pick up a form from any of our staffed stations.

If you are delayed aboard our trains or when waiting for one, regardless of the cause you will be compensated as follows:
Delays of 30-59 minutes: 50 percent for a single ticket or 25 per cent for a return ticket for the affected journey
Delays of 60-119 minutes: 100 per cent of the fare for a single ticket and 50 per cent for a return ticket for the affected journey
Delays of more than 120 minutes: 100 per cent for a single and return ticket.
Note: under the National Rail Conditions of Carriage Train Operator's are not liable for consequential loss, such as missed flights or taxi fare. Unfortunately, you have been mis-advised by the train driver in regards to the taxi fare.
Passengers delayed on journeys to airports, or who miss their plane, may be able to claim from their travel insurers, if the delay is due to a failure of public transport and if the you have allowed sufficient time for the journey.
If you would like further information in regards to the National Conditions of Carriage, please follow the link below:
http://www.southernrailway.com/your-journey/national-rail-conditions-of-carriage/
Please accept our apologies for the inconvenience caused and thank you for contacting us.


If you wish to contact us further regarding your query, please contact our Customer Service team directly at comments@southernrailway.com, by phone on 08451 27 29 20 or in writing to:

Southern Customer Services
PO Box 3021
Bristol
BS2 2BS
quoting ticket number [159470-1389887111] on all communication.

For the latest travel information, why not follow us on Twitter @southernrailUK and @GatwickExpress


Kind regards



Southern Customer Services"

Re: refund for inconvenience [159473-1389887291]

On 31st January their first reply which in synthesis says they cannot refund "For safety reasons, Network Rail advised that we could not run services because of the risk of falling trees and other debris, therefore Southern and Gatwick Express services were suspended, until Network Rail could inspect the line, clear the debris and declare the route safe for passenger traffic."

So why trains were en-route??? For safety reason?


"Dear Andrea
Thank you for contacting us on 16 January 2014.  Please accept my apologies for the delay in our response.
I would like to begin by sincerely apologising for the experience you had with us on Christmas Eve. I can certainly appreciate your frustration with the matter and how we had handled the disruptions. On Christmas Eve, we had experienced a lot of disruptions which included flooding, trees on the line, landslips and two fires at different locations. All of these factors added together, made it extremely difficult for us to run the services in which we had planned, bearing in mind that our services was reduced due to planned engineering works. The landslips had caused major disruptions and some were so severe, and have continued to fall, and some are still affecting our line today. I am sorry that there was no bus replacement service for your journey, we had already arranged some bus replacement services for the reduced services which we had due to engineering works but unfortunately, we were unable to accommodate for every service which had been affected by weather.
Southern operate around 2,300 services each week day and because all services were suspended until Network Rail declared it safe to run, that is a significant portion of our train service. In addition most other train operators in the Southern half of the country were similarly affected and as such we would not have been able so source sufficient replacement buses to provide an alternative for customers. For safety reasons, Network Rail advised that we could not run services because of the risk of falling trees and other debris, therefore Southern and Gatwick Express services were suspended, until Network Rail could inspect the line, clear the debris and declare the route safe for passenger traffic. I am very sorry for the delay and inconvenience caused, however this event was outside our control and we worked with Network Rail to ensure services were restored in the quickest yet safest way possible.
In addition many roads were adversely affected which would have prevented buses from running on certain routes. We did advise customers only to travel if absolutely necessary and ticket acceptance was arranged with London Buses and London Underground.
In order to apply for a refund, you will need to send your request into our Refunds Team within Customer Services.
You can print a refund application form via our website, by following the link below:
Please include all printed tickets & any booking references along with this form, to ensure our Refunds Team can adequately process your refund request.
You can post this form, or alternatively send a covering letter along with your tickets, to the address below:
Gatwick Express Refunds
PO Box 10240
Coalfield Way
Ashby-De-La-Zouch
LE65 9EB
Once received, our Refunds Team aim to process your refund within 20 days. You will then be contacted by this team once your request has been processed, in order to obtain your payment card details if a refund is due.


If you wish to contact us further regarding your query, please contact our Customer Service team directly at comments@southernrailway.com, by phone on 08451 27 29 20 or in writing to:
Southern Customer Services
PO Box 3021
Bristol
BS2 2BS
quoting ticket number [159473-1389887291] on all communication.

For the latest travel information, why not follow us on Twitter @southernrailUK and @GatwickExpress

Kind regards


Southern Customer Services"

Case number 159470-1389887111

The first email acknowledged my initial enquiry:


"Dear Andrea,
Thank you for your email. Your reference number is [159470-1389887111]

We appreciate you taking the time to contact us. Thank you for your email. Unfortunately it is taking us longer than usual to respond following a much higher volume of contacts than usual. We anticipate responding to your email within 10-14 days based on our current volumes and we are working hard to reduce our backlog. If the matter is urgent please call us on 08451 272920 or tweet @southernrailuk or @gatwickexpress. Please note that if you have sent us a Delay Repay claim, our team will aim to respond within 28 days.

Kind Regards,
Southern Customer Services"